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I have seen a statistic that says theists are 94% of the American population. That is such an overwhelming number, it can't help but be the case that more gays and lesbians are theists than atheists. However, that figure is the widest possible definition of theism, it includes people who are not a part of organized religion and just have a generic belief in a creator. And it is organized religion that has organized hostility towards the LGBT community. So a casual observer might find a near total lack of gays and lesbians in traditional churches and conclude they are mostly atheist.
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All of the homosexual Christians I know of have managed to reconcile their own behavior with what they personally believe the Bible teaches on the subject. They have come to the conclusion (and it's not my intention to say whether that conclusion is justified or not, regardless of you may think) that their sexual conduct is perfectly within the bounds of Christian doctrine. I think they are probably in the minority, though. I'm wondering about the others. When they decide to no longer be a part of Christianity (or Islam or Judaism, as the case may be), it is because of the persecution they have experienced or because a belief in God no longer makes sense to them?
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**MOD POST** Please stick to the topic at hand and do not speculate about each other. Thank you.
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So I'd say that the way the churches treat LGBTs didn't lead directly to my atheism, but it was definitely a factor in the process of my becoming an atheist.
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When I was a chaplain in a hospital, because I was Buddhist many gay people men and woman would ask to speak to me because they considered me as one patient said "gay friendly". I think from my experience many of the gay people I had contact with were Christians but were rejected many times. Most of the people would ask me if I knew of any gay friendly churches and sadly in Pennsylvania that was a big no your not welcome here.
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Heya Kathryn,
I am bisexual and used to be a theist. For me, being bisexual didn't consciously drive to me atheism. Of course it might have done unconsciously but then I couldn't really tell you about that. What I did consciously do was distance myself from those religions and theists who expressed intolerance towards different sexualities. For me, sexuality is not something that should be discriminated against so even considering it to be a sin is unacceptable as far as I am concerned. However, there are plenty of religious traditions that are accepting of different sexualities so it is quite easy to be theistic and gay especially in the UK where people are much more accepting. At least as far as I'm concerned my bisexuality has had nothing to do with my atheism. I've spent more of my life being bi and a believer.
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