Religious Education Forum  

Welcome to Religious Forums
Welcome Guest to ReligiousForums.com . You are currently not registered. When you become registered you will be able to interact with our large base of already registered users discussing topics. Some annoying Ads will also disappear when you register. Registering doesn't cost a thing and only takes a few seconds. We provide areas to chat and debate all World Religions. Please go to our register page!

Home Who's Online Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Go Back   Religious Education Forum / Religious Topics / Theological Concepts / Non-theism / Atheism
Sitemap Popular RF Forums REGISTER Search Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-26-2007, 02:03 PM
spiritually inclined's Avatar
spiritually inclined Offline
Religion: N/A - AtheistHumanist
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 613
Frubals: 186320
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
Default religious atheism

This is a thread I have posted elsewhere, but I thought it would be good for this forum, too:

I am an atheist with spiritual inclinations. I've always had them. However, I'm not quite sure where I'm going on my path as far as religion is concerned. I would like to learn about and experience more that is out there.

If there are any religious/spiritual atheists/agnostics here, I would like your take on where you are on your paths.

As for me, I'm interested in secular ritual and have developed my own. It's as simple as adding a symbolic meaning to something like showering, or, if you want, it can be more elaborate.

I'm also interested in philosophy and very concerned with morals and treating others with kindness. (I believe that morals are built-in to human nature and enhance our lives.) I am interested in possibly finding a religious community eventually, but I'm not sure. I'm very reluctant after my experience of Pentecostalism.

Any insight into religious naturalism or other religious atheistic paths would be very appreciated.

Thanks,
James
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-26-2007, 02:50 PM
Kungfuzed's Avatar
Kungfuzed Offline
Religion: Unitarian Universalist
Title:Cyber Punk
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Delaware
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,901
Frubals: 550978
Kungfuzed thinks frubals grow on trees
Kungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on trees
Kungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on treesKungfuzed thinks frubals grow on trees
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiritually inclined View Post
This is a thread I have posted elsewhere, but I thought it would be good for this forum, too:

I am an atheist with spiritual inclinations. I've always had them. However, I'm not quite sure where I'm going on my path as far as religion is concerned. I would like to learn about and experience more that is out there.

If there are any religious/spiritual atheists/agnostics here, I would like your take on where you are on your paths.

As for me, I'm interested in secular ritual and have developed my own. It's as simple as adding a symbolic meaning to something like showering, or, if you want, it can be more elaborate.

I'm also interested in philosophy and very concerned with morals and treating others with kindness. (I believe that morals are built-in to human nature and enhance our lives.) I am interested in possibly finding a religious community eventually, but I'm not sure. I'm very reluctant after my experience of Pentecostalism.

Any insight into religious naturalism or other religious atheistic paths would be very appreciated.

Thanks,
James
I'm also exploring my spiritual inclinations. I have no rituals but I do have an appreciation for the world I'm living in. You'll find a vast amount of information here on just about any religion or belief system you want to look into. I'm not quite sure what religious naturalism is, perhaps a naturalist who goes to church? I really have no idea where your beliefs lie other than your desire to be both secular and spiritual. My background is also from Christianity. Here I've learned a little about Hindu, Buddhism, Naturalism, Secular Humanism, Pantheism and am still working my way around to learning about all the others. So much to learn and so little time.
__________________
All things change in a dynamic environment. Your effort to remain what you are is what limits you. ~ Project 2501
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-26-2007, 03:00 PM
mr.guy's Avatar
mr.guy Offline
Title:crapsack
Humor Award:  - Issue reason: For uplifting use of humor 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 3,084
Frubals: 159318
mr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond repute
mr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond reputemr.guy has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I hate to break it to y'all, but so far as ritual goes atheists are only allowed to have gay orgies and eat babies at anti-war demonstrations.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-26-2007, 03:24 PM
spiritually inclined's Avatar
spiritually inclined Offline
Religion: N/A - AtheistHumanist
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 613
Frubals: 186320
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
I hate to break it to y'all, but so far as ritual goes atheists are only allowed to have gay orgies and eat babies at anti-war demonstrations.
Damn!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-26-2007, 03:47 PM
Pariah's Avatar
Pariah Offline
Religion: Kshatriya
Title:Let go
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Over the Rainbow
Gender: Male
Posts: 820
Frubals: 66758
Pariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant future
Pariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant futurePariah has a brilliant future
Default

Religious atheism does not seem feasible from logical terms - ritual is only useful insofar as represents something higher - whereas atheists disavow the existence of the "supernatural". Unless your idea of higher is something else than a god or divine presence/force.

If you are interested, find the Mysticism forum:
Individual Religions > Other Religious Movements and Practices > Mysticism, would be a great place to start.
__________________
The world's biggest power is the youth and beauty of a woman
Chanakya
(350-283 B.C.E)

Last edited by Pariah; 06-26-2007 at 03:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-26-2007, 03:55 PM
MaddLlama's Avatar
MaddLlama Offline
Title:Obstructor of justice
Above and Beyond Award:  - Issue reason: This award has been given to you by your peers and is well deserved. Ambassador Award: Award designated for members who show great knowledge of their religion. - Issue reason: Award designated for members who show great knowledge of their religion. 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Gender: Undisclosed
Posts: 8,315
Frubals: 764538
MaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
MaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
MaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman IslandsMaddLlama has a stash of frubals in the Cayman Islands
Default

You might want to check out this too: http://www.pantheism.net/
__________________
THE CAKE IS A LIE
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-26-2007, 05:40 PM
spiritually inclined's Avatar
spiritually inclined Offline
Religion: N/A - AtheistHumanist
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 613
Frubals: 186320
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Actually, ritual doesn't have to represent something "higher" at all. Ritual can be something as simple as giving structure, comfort, and routine to the day. (Like having a cup of coffee every morning.)

I've read that when we act something out in ritual, our brain interprets the experience as though we really had it, and not just acted it out ritually. So when you're washing in the shower you could imagine that you're washing away stress, anxiety...you start to look forward to your daily ritual, and I've found that it helps.

So I wouldn't think that ritual has to represent anything "higher" or even religious for that matter.

James
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-26-2007, 05:40 PM
spiritually inclined's Avatar
spiritually inclined Offline
Religion: N/A - AtheistHumanist
Title:Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: USA
Gender: Male
Posts: 613
Frubals: 186320
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
spiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond reputespiritually inclined has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Thanks for the link!

James
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-26-2007, 08:30 PM
Jayhawker Soule's Avatar
Jayhawker Soule Offline
Religion: naturalism
Title:Supporter
Prolific Poster Award:  - Issue reason: You have acheived over 10,000 posts here at RF. Congrats! Scholarship Award:  - Issue reason:  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Gender: Male
Posts: 11,060
Frubals: 1964978
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Jayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal WhoreJayhawker Soule is a Frubal Whore
Default

I think "religious atheism" places far too much emphasis on "atheism". Religious naturalism, on the other hand, represents a spectrum of coherent philosophies (ontologies). You may wish to investigate UU.
__________________
if G-d ( G-d is not 'X' for all 'X' )
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-27-2007, 12:39 AM
rojse's Avatar
rojse Offline
Religion: Orthodox Potato Church
Title:Uber Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,346
Frubals: 516552
rojse thinks frubals grow on trees
rojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on trees
rojse thinks frubals grow on treesrojse thinks frubals grow on trees
Default

I am an aetheist, but I don't have any rituals or the like, or see any greater significance behind