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Old 02-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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Exclamation Is atheism negative thinking?

I've heard that many people say religious people are sometimes more likely to survive an operation or illness because they are more optimistic, and atheists don't as much because they are pessimistic. I don't think that is true because if you are truly prepared for death and no afterlife, reincarnation, nirvana, or any other supernatural consiousness, that means religion is more of a wishful thinking thing. Maybe atheists are realists and theists are idealists. Tell me your thoughts!
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...no afterlife, reincarnation, nirvana, or any other supernatural consiousness...
This is just a minor quibble IC, but I don't think nirvana represents a supernatural consciousness.
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Atheists are a product of their own mind.

They will adore it for a while and then treat it like yesterday's toy. Its not that they've made up their mind about God, they are merely waiting for more data to arrive so they can make a decision. They are open, rather than closed. They are not hemmed in by one religious system or another either.

They are actually a plowed field awaiting seed. The waiting is the part you see.



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This is just a minor quibble IC, but I don't think nirvana represents a supernatural consciousness.
what would you call it then?
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what would you call it then?
A kind of awareness, rather than a supernatural awareness. There is no conclusive evidence that it has anything to do with the supernatural at all.
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Atheists accept the reality they're in. That is positive thinking.
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If you think that any life without God must be fatalism then of course you will think atheists are negative. We die and rot and exist no more for all eternity, therefore our lives are meaningless and without purpose. If we were not created for some great purpose then we can't have a great purpose.

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Well I am very optimistic thank you very much . Some might say unrealistic. There is plenty to be excited and optimistic about without needing either religion or a god (although I am sure those things serve theists very well indeed).
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A kind of awareness, rather than a supernatural awareness. There is no conclusive evidence that it has anything to do with the supernatural at all.
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noun1. (Hinduism and Buddhism) the beatitude that transcends the cycle of reincarnation; characterized by the extinction of desire and suffering and individual consciousness 2. any place of complete bliss and delight and peace [syn: Eden]


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nirvana [(neer-vah-nuh, nur-vah-nuh)]


In Buddhism, the highest state of consciousness, in which the soul is freed from all desires and attachments.Chapter:] World Literature, Philosophy, and Religion


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