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Old 05-12-2006, 09:28 PM
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http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2251

I found this article while browsing townhall.com. Any comments? I wonder if it is true that 90 percent of Americans consider themselves theist of some sort or another. I always thought we where more secular than that?

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The link doesn't work for me. Is the article short enough for you to post?
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Old 05-12-2006, 09:35 PM
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I always thought we where more secular than that?
In your estimation, how does secular society preclude a certain ratio of theists?
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Old 05-12-2006, 09:38 PM
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http://http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2251

I found this article while browsing townhall.com. Any comments? I wonder if it is true that 90 percent of Americans consider themselves theist of some sort or another. I always thought we where more secular than that?
The link sends me to www.microsoft.com

Is this Bill Gates' attempt to take over the Internet, or what?
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I have plenty of friends who call themselves christian that are secular in thier behavior.
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Im really sorry about the bad link. I found the problem so it should work now.
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http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2251

I found this article while browsing townhall.com. Any comments? I wonder if it is true that 90 percent of Americans consider themselves theist of some sort or another. I always thought we where more secular than that?
As always, consider the source. The author is a member of the Wilberforce Forum, according to the article. And according to Wiki, this is what the Wilberforce Forum is:

"The Wilberforce Forum is a conservative Christian political and social think tank and action group particularly active in the promotion of Christian creationism in education and in biotechnology and bioethics issues, such as human cloning and stem cell research."

Methinks I hear the sound of axes grinding in the background of this article...
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Stories like Sartre’s and Murray’s abound, revealing that the faith required for atheism, and its underpinning of philosophical naturalism, is enormous; in fact, one could say that it’s without rational basis altogether.
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The bleak outlook for atheism is not due to the rational power of theistic arguments, but to the innate and irrepressible knowledge that there is purpose and meaning in existence—“a kind of care” and intentionality from beyond.
I liked this part, too.
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The first thing I would comment on is the source. You aren't going to get an unbais opinion from an apologetic website. I doubt any of them even know what a secular humanists is. They didn' t bother to define Secular humanist or atheist. Most polling websites put atheism in the USA between 10-15 % so they may have taken the more conservative number thou they didn't list a source. It looks like yet another christian organization that wants to eradicate atheism and keep its members from flirting with the notion of "mabye there is no God."

If you go to the main article page there is another article denouncing humanism and another denoucing science for being secular in proposition and/or requiring evidence.
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