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Old 05-13-2006, 07:48 AM
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That article is full of rubbish, making incorrect claims. When they can get their facts right, THEN i will pay attention to what they say, but for now, it's just drivvel.
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Old 05-13-2006, 07:55 AM
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That article is full of rubbish, making incorrect claims. When they can get their facts right, THEN i will pay attention to what they say, but for now, it's just drivvel.
Even if they got their facts straight, Tiberius, I'm not sure that I'd personally be interested in a polemic against atheism. As far as I've seen, even the best of such rants are usually petty minded and largely irrelevant to genuine atheists.

I agree with you, however, that the article's rubbish does not speak well of its author, nor of the way his religious beliefs fail to give him adequate guidance on intellectual honesty.
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That it has to indulge in the obvious fantasy that Atheism is "poised for extinction" shows just how threatening Atheism really is to the author.
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I found this article while browsing townhall.com. Any comments? I wonder if it is true that 90 percent of Americans consider themselves theist of some sort or another. I always thought we where more secular than that?
You're assuming that these must be mutually exclusive, but they aren't. Lots of people are personally theistic (if not religious) but socially secular. This is to be expected in a country where we have traditionally kept our religious beliefs apart from our social interactions. Most of us have learned to "mind our own business" when it comes to religious beliefs and have come to appreciate the value of everyone doing so.

It's only recently, as the republican party has been stirring up religious resentments, animosities, and prejudices, to help get themselves elected, that the idea that a person can't be both theistic and secular at the same time has arisen.

I'm both a theist and an agnostic. And I think lots of other folks are as well. And although I'm happy to discuss religious beliefs on internet sites designed for this purpose, I don't incite such discussions in the normal course of my social interactions. I believe that most people prefer to keep their religious beliefs to themselves, and I respect their privacy.
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atheists seem to erupt over this. your beliefs will be challenged time to time you know
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I have plenty of friends who call themselves christian that are secular in thier behavior.
Good point. I doubt the statistics consider that.
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The article seemed extremely biased. Upon further inspection of the web site, I understand why.
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So? Alot of theists freak out as well
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You Atheist sound like a bunch of Christians getting upset over a newsletter about the death of God. Huh?

I agree to the idea that naturalism and atheism will be disconnected.


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