Why i am proud to be an atheist

[trruth]

Originally Posted by The Sum of Awe

[*]Why do you think atheism is your best choice ? Most likely.
[*]Do you think that your life is limited and there is no afterlife? Yes.
[*]What if your body died and you found out that you are still alive as spirit and you realize that your test on earth have been finished,will you feel sorrow,anxious and fear. I'd accept whatever happened, no chance in changing an omniscient, omnipotent creature's mind.
[*]Do you always say that you still have time that you may look after religion when you are old but not now. It's possible, I am open minded, but extremely doubt it, because I'm far behind skepitcal, even compared to the faith-based Existentialism.
[*]if you want to think about a religion,which one you think you may choose. Shamanism definitely, I'm already getting into it through the Chaos Magick.
[*]What are the benefits from atheism on earth Nothing really, nothing in philosophy actually benefits society unless it's epistemology.
[*]Are you sure 100% that there is no god,which makes you happy to choose atheism without any worries for what will be afterlife.

Not really, I'm just 100% sure that the idea of a personal God is much more absurd than Russel's Teapot.

Shamanism do believe on spirits and afterlife,but i guess you dont believe on such stories.

[ImmortalFlame]

Originally Posted by trruth

Why do you think atheism is your best choice ?

Because it is the one most likely to be true, and therfore more conductive to reality.

Originally Posted by trruth

Do you think that your life is limited and there is no afterlife?

Yes.

Originally Posted by trruth

What if your body died and you found out that you are still alive as spirit and you realize that your test on earth have been finished,will you feel sorrow,anxious and fear.

I'd feel surprised first. Beyond that, I have no idea.

Originally Posted by trruth

Do you always say that you still have time that you may look after religion when you are old but not now.

Why would I say that? I would only turn to religion if the facts turned in that direction, otherwise it would just be out of fear.

Originally Posted by trruth

if you want to think about a religion,which one you think you may choose.

Buddhism, I guess.

Originally Posted by trruth

What are the benefits from atheism on earth

The lack of the notion of moral imperatives allows humans a more flexible morality which is then able to change over time to best benefit the people of earth. Retaining a strict moral or ethical code that is unable to be altered by time is a terrible legacy to leave future generations, whose understanding of human suffering and of each other will most likely be greater than our own. We owe it to ourself and, especially, future generations, to advocate a godless (or, at least, secular) morality that does not arbitrarily designates absolutes or dictate the actions of people who do not hurt, harm or affect other people in any negative way, and a morality which is based on the common good of all mankind, not the adherance to an arbitrary rulebook to a supernatural agency backed by the fear of an enernal afterlife rather than the real, human consequences of wrongdoing.

Originally Posted by trruth

Are you sure 100% that there is no god,which makes you happy to choose atheism without any worries for what will be afterlife.
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I'm not 100% sure about anything, but I am nearing positive certainty.

[9Westy9]

Originally Posted by trruth

• Why do you think atheism is your best choice ?
• Do you think that your life is limited and there is no afterlife?
• What if your body died and you found out that you are still alive as spirit and you realize that your test on earth have been finished,will you feel sorrow,anxious and fear.
• Do you always say that you still have time that you may look after religion when you are old but not now.
• if you want to think about a religion,which one you think you may choose.
• What are the benefits from atheism on earth
• Are you sure 100% that there is no god,which makes you happy to choose atheism without any worries for what will be afterlife.

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1) It fits best with my beliefs and the evidence I see before me.
2) I don't believe in an afterlife
3) Not a clue. I'd just hope that any judge is smart enough to know that I did the best I could with my limited knowledge
4) Not sure I understand the question
5) Shinto buddhism or taoism
6) Freedom to believe what you want about whatever you want. Whereas religion usually forces you to believe certain things.
7) I'm not 100% sure of most things. I choose atheism for the reason in 1. and I'm quite happy to choose atheism. Also.....


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[HonestJoe]

Originally Posted by trruth

right,but we have first to agree if life is just our materialistic body or both materialistic and spiritual, as religions are concerned with the soul.

You've got the same definition issue with "spiritual" too. The problem is that these terms are used by lots of different individuals/religions/faiths to describe vastly different concepts or interpretations.

Originally Posted by trruth

So do you believe that you have a soul beside your materialistic body

By common definitions of "soul" , no I don't.

[trruth]

Originally Posted by HonestJoe

You've got the same definition issue with "spiritual" too. The problem is that these terms are used by lots of different individuals/religions/faiths to describe vastly different concepts or interpretations.

By common definitions of "soul" , no I don't.

May i ask you one question to go for the next one.
Do an atom of iron differ from another atom of iron,or they are similar.

[HonestJoe]

Originally Posted by trruth

Do an atom of iron differ from another atom of iron,or they are similar.

Not really my field and I suspect it depends who deeply you look but in simply terms, I'd say similar (maybe even identical).

[trruth]

Originally Posted by HonestJoe

Not really my field and I suspect it depends who deeply you look but in simply terms, I'd say similar (maybe even identical).

Yes of course they are similar and identical.

The next question.
Do i differ from you?
We are all having the same material,same body functions,brain,lung,stomach..etc.
So what makes me different than you,knowing that our bodies working the same.

[HonestJoe]

Originally Posted by trruth

So what makes me different than you, knowing that our bodies working the same.

In countless little ways, in the way in which the individual similar or even identical parts are structured differently.

You can take identical pairs of straight lines yet have them form very different structures; + X L T V (and those are just the ones on my keyboard). Coal and diamond are made from exactly the same element, just structured differently.

[YmirGF]

First off, I'm not "proud" to be an atheist. I'm simply another human animal muddling their way through a complex world... just like a Theist who pretends to know so much more. In that respect, "pride" has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by trruth

Why do you think atheism is your best choice ?

My position is an extension of the rule, "To thine own self, be true". I have had many amazing experiences in this short life and could easily attribute those experience to "god", however, not being an expert on "god", I'm in no position to claim that my experience were really "of god" or not. I'm not so arrogant as to allow myself to boldly claim that what I see IS god. I don't really know what "it" is. The thing is, due to my ongoing inner experiences, I have a high level of certainty that others don't really know either.

Originally Posted by trruth

Do you think that your life is limited and there is no afterlife?

I do not believe in an "afterlife" as it is generally conceived, No. I do not believe in "death" per se, either. I see life as changes.

Originally Posted by trruth

What if your body died and you found out that you are still alive as spirit and you realize that your test on earth have been finished,will you feel sorrow,anxious and fear.

Been there, done that, minus the test thingy. Actually the feeling was one of triumphant exhalation. Sorrow, anxiety and fear never entered my mind. Go figure. This life isn't a test, rather, it is a bit of a "what if" experiment. (Don't worry, you will understand what I mean one day.)

Originally Posted by trruth

Do you always say that you still have time that you may look after religion when you are old but not now.

Given that I am already 56, there is virtually no possibility that I would ever take any religion of the human animal seriously enough to consider adopting it. I've already made the rounds, more so than most, and I always found them wanting. "They all have their crumbs, but their loaves have long since turned to dust." Personally, I prefer my reality, plain and unvarnished. It's so much more entertaining not know, for sure, what lay around the next corner.

Originally Posted by trruth

if you want to think about a religion,which one you think you may choose.

I would never seriously consider ANY religion. I can tell you, quite plainly, and with great honesty, that Islam would be my very last choice, however.

Originally Posted by trruth

What are the benefits from atheism on earth

Atheism allow the individual the freedom to see reality how it is; by not pretending how reality SHOULD BE. I don't see a downside to this, though some fragile ego's may get a bit roughed up over the thought.

Originally Posted by trruth

Are you sure 100% that there is no god,which makes you happy to choose atheism without any worries for what will be afterlife.-

Of course not. You see, if indeed Allah created me, and he is really All Wise, All merciful, etc, ad nauseam, I rather expect he would understand me fairly well. In theory, he would know precisely why I chose what I did and just smile and welcome me. I have no unnatural guilt on this subject. Sorry to burst the bubble.

[trruth]

Originally Posted by HonestJoe

In countless little ways, in the way in which the individual similar or even identical parts are structured differently.

You can take identical pairs of straight lines yet have them form very different structures; + X L T V (and those are just the ones on my keyboard). Coal and diamond are made from exactly the same element, just structured differently.

i will try to let you know your soul by chatting,questions & answers.

if you have a cup of tea with one spoon of sugar,you can drink it,because it taste normal,but if i give you the same cup of tea with 10 spoons of sugar.
will you drink it,your brain show you how it taste,but who is to give the decision as not to drink, you or your brain.