faithless (minority, atheist, recall, catholic, God)

[faithless]

In scanning some of the threads by people who are not atheists, it is clear that a large majority of them do not understand just what atheism is. They apparently think it is some kind of organized group with rules, maxims, and other points of common agreement. It is nothing of the kind. The ONLY thing atheists have in common is their lack of belief in a god or gods of any kind. All atheists do not deny the existence of god or gods. Some of us are weak atheists, in that we do not have a belief. Others, the hard atheists, deny that god or gods exist. This necessarily puts a burden on them---to prove it, and it cannot be done, any more than theists can prove god does exist. Other than that one common attitude (lack of belief), atheists are a very, very diverse group, and might believe just about anything. They are a lot like Democrats---diverse, divided, and unorganized. That is our strength and our weakness. We aren't often "joiners," hence we are facing the combined strengths of the religious organizations, who are largely arrayed against us. When the fundamentalists of whichever ilk take over, they will be hunting us down and putting us to the sword, because we are free-thinking, at least in our lack of belief, and that is dangerous to the religious mind.

[Bishka]

Welcome, I guess. I see you are from Idaho, as I am I, what part?

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by faithless

they will be hunting us down and putting us to the sword,

Uh, what leads you to this paranoia?

[faithless]

To Beckysoup61; I live in Buhl. To Superuniverse; History leads me to this conclusion, not to any paranoia. If you think the islamist fundamentalists are going to let atheists, let alone Catholics remain alive should they take over the world (this is a stated goal of many of them), you are whistling past the graveyard. You only need read some of the tracts of many Christian fundamentalists to realize that they are going to do the same if they take over. They just don't say so out loud for fear they will frighten off people like you.

[Super Universe]

Sigh... The same extreme paranoia that grips these people you are so afraid of grips you as well.

They are the minority and always will be.

[sky87]

[quote=faithless]In scanning some of the threads by people who are not atheists, it is clear that a large majority of them do not understand just what atheism is. They apparently think it is some kind of organized group with rules, maxims, and other points of common agreement. It is nothing of the kind. The ONLY thing atheists have in common is their lack of belief in a god or gods of any kind. All atheists do not deny the existence of god or gods. [quote=faithless]
what? didn't you just say that the only thing that atheists have in common is that they don't believe in god, and now you're telling me that all of them don't deny the existence of god? contradictory sentences mate.
[quote=faithless]Some of us are weak atheists, in that we do not have a belief. Others, the hard atheists, deny that god or gods exist. This necessarily puts a burden on them---to prove it, and it cannot be done, any more than theists can prove god does exist. Other than that one common attitude (lack of belief), atheists are a very, very diverse group, and might believe just about anything. They are a lot like Democrats---diverse, divided, and unorganized. That is our strength and our weakness. We aren't often "joiners," hence we are facing the combined strengths of the religious organizations, who are largely arrayed against us. [quote=faithless]
what forces are you talking about? any specifics?
[quote=faithless]When the fundamentalists of whichever ilk take over, they will be hunting us down and putting us to the sword, because we are free-thinking, at least in our lack of belief, and that is dangerous to the religious mind. [quote=faithless]
dangerous to the religious mind? i know many atheists and i don't consider them as a danger! for god's sake we're in the 21st century! the stuff that you're referring to used to happen during the renaissance time period, where people like galileo were told recant their scientific observations, and scientists were executed or what not, this stuff doesn't happen anymore, and as far as i recall i haven't heard of any atheists being put to the sword lately, sure religious people don't agree with you, but they aren't going to kill you for that! (and don't bring up religious extremists because they would kill just about anyone)

[Buttons*]

muahahahahahah .... i just feel like hijacking threads from boredom

[sky87]

Originally Posted by faithless

To Beckysoup61; I live in Buhl. To Superuniverse; History leads me to this conclusion, not to any paranoia. If you think the islamist fundamentalists are going to let atheists, let alone Catholics remain alive should they take over the world (this is a stated goal of many of them), you are whistling past the graveyard. You only need read some of the tracts of many Christian fundamentalists to realize that they are going to do the same if they take over. They just don't say so out loud for fear they will frighten off people like you.

islamic fundamentalists taking over the world? you know what the world has constantly been in fear of some evident force than another, (nazis for example) and right now that force is America not islamic fundamentalists! just to let you know, america is a colony hungry empire, and its not going down anytime soon (though some believe china is slowly taking over, im sure that won't be happening soon) Operation Iraqi Freedom, short form O.I.L., judge for yourself, let me just tell you that the americans are the ones who are in charge of the atomic bombs killing thousands of people in japan (hiroshima and nagasaki), if there is anything that the world needs to fear its america! extremists have always been there, and the majority of muslims are peace loving people they don't agree with groups with the likes of the taliban. and you really think that america will let them take over the world? i can't type much now, but i will get back to you soon, peace.

[Buttons*]

lets end the confusion now... just join choodianism!

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by sky87

America not islamic fundamentalists! just to let you know, america is a colony hungry empire

If America is such a colony hungry empire then why did we not take Japan and Western Germany as ours? Why could have taken the whole of the middle east and all the oil, we could have taken the world in 1945 with nuclear weapons?

The atomic bombs dropped on Japan SAVED hundreds of thousands of lives. Maybe you should do a little research on how many deaths were expected from an invasion instead of letting your obvious jealousy drive your posts.

If the war in Iraq is for oil then how come fuel prices in the USA have GONE UP? Oil from the major oil producing nations, including Iraq, goes into the global supply where it's price is set by OPEC.