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09-09-2005, 11:32 AM
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plastic shamans
There are a number of fauds out there trying to make a quick buck off Native American religion...
how do you tell if someone is a fraud. Well we have discovered the internet and as a service to those who really want to learn about Native religion there are numerous web pages out there devoted to keeping you informed about who to stay away from. some helpfull links: http://users.pandora.be/gohiyuhi/nafps/links.htm http://www.geocities.com/ourredearth/plastic.html http://www.williams.edu/go/native/natreligion.htm if anyone wants you to give them money for any reason... sweat lodge, a pritty rock, book sales... stay away from them!! if anyone clames to have learned from an 'old shaman' or similer junk... stay away! Our culture and our faith is not there to be pillaged, raped and sold...  wa:do
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mispellers of the world 'untie'!  wa:do Cherokee for 'thank you'
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09-09-2005, 11:38 AM
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more links:
http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com.../pay2pray.html http://www.native-languages.org/religion.htm http://www.bluecorncomics.com/newage.htm http://www.suite101.com/linkcategory.cfm/6080/9910 wa:do
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#3
09-09-2005, 11:39 AM
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Thanks for those links PW... they're going straight onto my bookmarks for future reference.
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#4
09-09-2005, 01:28 PM
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Wonderful links, PW! It disgusts me that anyone would lay claim to heritage that's not theirs and then try to 'sell' it.
I'm concerned, sometimes, because I feel I'm 'on the shamanic path', but am not Native American nor do I exclusively follow 'Native spirituality'. I worry a lot, I suppose, about being thought of as a 'plastic shaman'.
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09-09-2005, 06:11 PM
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Thanks for the links.
I hate it when people put on an act of telling you there for a good cause, but it's not. This one Asain group was walking around town a few days ago, and this one guy came into Arbys. He couldn't speak english to save his life, and he hands me this card. This card said that "we are a group of missionaries from Mongolia. We are taking up donations for [I don't remember the cause]. If you have $1's or $5's, it would be appreciated. If you donate big with a big heart, such as $20, you will recieve a heart shaped magnet. If you donate with an even bigger heart, such as $50, you will recieve 4 heart magnets. If you have a really big heart and donate $100, you will get 8 magnets. May God be with you and bless you! Amen!" It really had the amounts, and the "such as" on it. Later on, some girl, who had the same card but spoke very good english came in. Not only did she leave a mess in the lobby, but she had a stack of reciepts from several stores.
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09-09-2005, 10:13 PM
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Just so eveyone knows... this is a reprise of my first post on the Native American area...
It has since dissapreared but I felt it was nessisary and useful, so I redid it. Feathers- You do not try to represent yourself as anything you are not. You are following your heart and using what you have learned respectfully. You don't try to sell it, or clame that you are a 'native shaman'...so don't worry, I think your ok.  wa:do
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#7
09-10-2005, 12:00 AM
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Whew, okay! *hugs PW*
As you said so eloquently in the other thread, though, you just couldn't sell it, any more than you could sell the wind.
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09-10-2005, 10:28 AM
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Quote:
 Give them time and I'm sure that someone will try to sell the Wind .
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Look at your young men fighting Look at your women crying Look at your young men dying The way they've always done before * Gun&Roses *
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#9
09-10-2005, 10:32 AM
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...Mad Brain Surgeon!...
