Agnostic theists (Deist, beliefs, atheist, worship, God)

Mr Spinkles · #1 02-09-2005, 03:03 AM

It is perfectly possible for a person to be both agnostic and a theist (or, conversely, agnostic and an atheist). Agnosticism is not a statement of belief for/against/on the fence with the issue of God but rather a position on what can be known with absolute certainty.

What distinguishes an agnostic theist from other theists? My understanding is that while a theist might say "I know that God exists", the agnostic theist says "I do not know that God exists, but I believe God exists."

How many of the theists (or polytheists) on here at Religiousforums are agnostic?

Green Gaia · #2 02-09-2005, 08:36 AM

I cound probably fit into that catagory (although at times I've fanicied myself deist, pantheist and/or atheist, lol). Agnostic theist is probably right on the money. I don't know if there's a god, I have no proof of one, and quite frankly it doesn't matter to me. Whether there is a god or not generally does not determine how I live my life, but rather my humanistic side does (*wonders how many different terms I can use to describe my belief in one post*). However, I like to believe that something higher than us created us for some purpose. I don't hold the general theist view that we should be submissive and worship this entity, or are required to in order to be in good favor. My general thoughts on that are a much simpler plan, but I won't go into detail here.

Mr Spinkles · #3 02-13-2005, 07:47 PM

I'm surprised that more theists didn't respond to this thread. I would think a number of our members could be considered agnostic theists.

Jaiket · #4 02-16-2005, 09:32 PM

Revealing themselves to you may destroy their secret conspiracy to overthrow RF and rename it Agnostic Theists Forums...Or there might not be any.

Mr Spinkles · #5 02-17-2005, 12:41 AM

Now you're just being silly....there must be a dozen on this forum, at least.

Unedited · #6 02-17-2005, 04:17 AM

I'm not sure if I would be or not. I have my beliefs, and I live by those beliefs, but I'm not at all certain they're right. I just know what feels right.

But then again, the term "theist" has caused me a few headaches over the last few weeks.

michel · #7 02-17-2005, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unedited

I'm not sure if I would be or not. I have my beliefs, and I live by those beliefs, but I'm not at all certain they're right. I just know what feels right.

But then again, the term "theist" has caused me a few headaches over the last few weeks.

Hi unedited;
you've confused me here; what do you mean?

non-duality · #8 02-20-2005, 02:09 PM

To me the agnostic faith is the deepest faith of all.

If we really want to know a man, we should trust alone on our own experience and not others report us about him. Same applies to God. If we believe we know already everything about God and if our knowing is founded on what others told us or what is been written down, we won't come to know God.

Faith is private, it is just a matter between one person and God. No one and nothing is in between. Out of this reason I appreciate Unedited’s: “I just know what feels right.” very much!

Greetings by Martin

Halcyon · #9 02-28-2005, 01:31 PM

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To me the agnostic faith is the deepest faith of all.

If we really want to know a man, we should trust alone on our own experience and not others report us about him. Same applies to God. If we believe we know already everything about God and if our knowing is founded on what others told us or what is been written down, we won't come to know God.

Faith is private, it is just a matter between one person and God. No one and nothing is in between. Out of this reason I appreciate Unedited’s: “I just know what feels right.” very much!

Exactly! I think i might fall into this catagory. I have my mythology, but do take it as absolute fact would hinder my Gnostic search for truth, as the truth might not agree with my beliefs.