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Old 07-16-2008, 06:26 PM
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Isn’t this His kingdom? Doesn’t he rule here? Aren’t we his servants?
Oh, that sucks!! What does he need servants for!?!
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:39 PM
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Isn’t this His kingdom? Doesn’t he rule here? Aren’t we his servants?
Yid613,
Pardon for my ignorance of the Jewish faith, but don't you believe in the coming of a Savior?
I had always thought that the major difference between Jews and Christians, was that the Jews believe that the Savior has not yet come, and Christians believe that he was Jesus Christ, who is to return again.
So please, tell me, do you believe that the Savior and His kingdom is yet to come, or not?
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:28 PM
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Oh, that sucks!! What does he need servants for!?!
Nah it’s a sweet gig. He likes doing good so He wants to be a benevolence King. But what’s a king without subjects. He needs us to willfully accept Him and crown Him our King. That’s why He made us greater than the angles, with free will. Without us willfully accepting Him He’s nothing but a dictator.


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Yid613,
Pardon for my ignorance of the Jewish faith, but don't you believe in the coming of a Savior?
I had always thought that the major difference between Jews and Christians, was that the Jews believe that the Savior has not yet come, and Christians believe that he was Jesus Christ, who is to return again.
So please, tell me, do you believe that the Savior and His kingdom is yet to come, or not?
We believe in the coming of a Messiah who will:
  • Bring back the reign of the Jews to be again under that of the descendents of King David.
  • Rebuild the Holy Temple and bring the Jews dispersed in the Diaspora back to the Land of Israel.
  • Re-imposition of Jewish law as it was during the time of the Sanhedrian, the Great Assembly that existed during the time of the Holy Temples.
  • The sacrifices will be renewed in the Temple as will the observance of the laws of the seventh year.
  • The Shemita year dealing with agricultural products and monetary loans, and all the other laws which today are no longer observed, will be brought back into effect.
He will not be savior in the xtain sense. We are ourselves responsible for our own sins.Following this will be the World to Come, a time of a more spiritual existence.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:02 PM
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Bring back the reign of the Jews to be again under that of the descendents of King David. Rebuild the Holy Temple and bring the Jews dispersed in the Diaspora back to the Land of Israel. Re-imposition of Jewish law as it was during the time of the Sanhedrian, the Great Assembly that existed during the time of the Holy Temples. The sacrifices will be renewed in the Temple as will the observance of the laws of the seventh year. The Shemita year dealing with agricultural products and monetary loans, and all the other laws which today are no longer observed, will be brought back into effect.
Many of these prophecies for the Moshiach are not in the Tanak, they are taken from rabbinical discourse, i.e. the talmud. Yeshua bar Miriam is the promised messiah the Israelites were waiting for. He came some 2000 years ago. Because his people rejected him, even many prophecies from Tanak were not fulfilled, but they will be completed at his second coming.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:21 PM
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Ilias Ahmad,
I see that you have things to say to Yid613,
but have you anything to say to me, a Christian? I'm nothing but an Israelite that believes in Jesus Christ as my savior.

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Old 07-16-2008, 09:53 PM
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Many of these prophecies for the Moshiach are not in the Tanak, they are taken from rabbinical discourse, i.e. the talmud.
Actually what I posted was from the Rambam, but he learns this out from scripture.

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Yeshua bar Miriam is the promised messiah . . .
Well who ever the Messiah is I think we can all agree he should get a move on it.
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Oh, that sucks!! What does he need servants for!?!
I never did understand why an all powerful deity needed servants.
Perhaps all his power made him lazy?
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We believe in the coming of a Messiah who will:
  • Bring back the reign of the Jews to be again under that of the descendents of King David.
  • Rebuild the Holy Temple and bring the Jews dispersed in the Diaspora back to the Land of Israel.
  • Re-imposition of Jewish law as it was during the time of the Sanhedrian, the Great Assembly that existed during the time of the Holy Temples.
  • The sacrifices will be renewed in the Temple as will the observance of the laws of the seventh year.
  • The Shemita year dealing with agricultural products and monetary loans, and all the other laws which today are no longer observed, will be brought back into effect.

if you don't mind me asking, can you tell me about temple and sacrifices? where would that temple be? was there a temple before? if yes, when and where was it? what are sacrifices? what is Shemita year?



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Perhaps all his power made him lazy?
people who's serving God is the happiest. God does not need it but God wants people to be happy



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