U.S. Muslims and Mormons share deepening ties (Jesus Christ, translation)

[Katzpur]

How come everybody is ignoring the first sentence of the OP?

The connection is based not on theology but on shared values and a sense of isolation from mainstream America.

Everybody's all up in arms over some kind of imagined ecumenism, when the article in question says nothing about either an agreement or a compromise on any theological issues. And why does there always have to be an ulterior motive or hidden agenda? Jeesh! You guys are all full of it!

[zeezrom]

Everyone thinks that mormons or lds are sheep stealers, Funny part though is that they are lay ministry, no one is paid... That is what has lead to their isolation from mainstream. other than their belief on the Godhead.

[ben d]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Wrong. Perhaps you ought to stick to talking about a religion you're familiar with. We believe in continuing revelation and have had fifteen prophets since Joseph Smith.

My bad,..thank you,..always grateful to be made aware of an errors.

And I agree with your general sentiments expressed in the follow up post,..but realistically, mortals are limited by their design criteria and this sort of stuff happens.

[not4me]

Originally Posted by kai

utter nonsense !how would you reconcile yourself in their further revelations after mohamed,or their view of Isa, its not prejudice but a different religion, dont you know that , what do you know about LDS beleif and how do you reconcile your beleifs with theirs, would you go to a LDS church service for example?

I think what you said is the "utter nonsense", kai. My Muslim friend didn't say anything about going to LDS church service or reconciling his beliefs with any another religion. I also think he realizes that we are talking about two different religions but also this doesn't mean we shouldn't find a common ground between them as a ground for "deepening ties". I do think the article made it clear that these ties are not based on theology!!! And I don't find anything surprising in the article. Nor am I surprised with your usual ant-Islamic propaganda. kai. Searching for common grounds with non-Muslims is the Islam itself. Understanding and deepening our relations with people of different beliefs doesn't mean agreeing with or adopting their beliefs.

[kai]

I am simply questioning this "common " ground. and not4me i am sorry that you feel the need to call my skeptcism "anti Islamic Propaganda" but the truth always hurts. if there was something i said that is wrong please feel free to correct me,and Katspur no one is "up in arms" i am simply discussing the notion of these two diametrically opposed religions cooperating in some way because i find the notion interesting. and there is always an agenda

[Comprehend]

Originally Posted by Popeyesays

Yet you're both missing the fact that Smith's "revelation" is not his own but simply translating books that were written before and during Christ's Revelation. Therefore it is not a new revelation at all, and Smith is at most a minor Prophet of Jesus, no more than Timothy, John, Peter, Paul, etc..

The revelation Smith offered is a time capsule from before Muhammed. That makes Joseph Smith one of the people of the Book.

Regards,
Scott

Scott,

I'm afraid it is you who is missing some facts. Are you aware of the Doctrine & Covenants? Joseph Smith did indeed recieve new revelation, feel free to familiarize yourself with it before you continue to (mis)represent our beliefs.

Regards.

[nawab]

Since the others gospels John, Luke, Mark, Mathew were not written at the time of Jesus. the ancient scriptures go back to 400-600 years after Christ, now there is The most ancient Scriptures which the RSV revised standard version 1961 of the Bible is based on that dates back 200-300 years after Christ. So what is the big deal about Joseph Smith since all Gospels were written after Christ.

But the main Bible used by The LDS Church is King James Version 5th major revision. so one can still find contradictions, Mistakes and absurdies in them as well but I dont want to go in depth.

[Popeyesays]

The Doctrine and Covenants are concerned with administration and interaction of the LDS community and do not constitute original spiritual revelation. Joseph Smith never expressed his own authority as an independent Prophet like Jesus or Moses did. Rather he behaved as Mark, or Micah, or Ali, deriving his authority from Jesus.

I append this from the D&C to illustrate:
" 23 Behold thou art aHyrum, my son; bseek the kingdom of God, and all things shall be added according to that which is just.
24 aBuild upon my brock, which is my cgospel;

25 Deny not the spirit of arevelation, nor the spirit of bprophecy, for wo unto him that cdenieth these things;

26 Therefore, atreasure up in your bheart until the time which is in my wisdom that you shall go forth.

27 Behold, I speak unto aall who have good desires, and have thrust in their sickle to reap.

28 Behold, I am Jesus Christ, the aSon of God. I am the life and the blight of the world."

AN outsider's point of view is not necessarily "misrepresentation" but rather the observation of a representation of a different point of view.


Regards,
Scott