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Old 04-15-2008, 05:33 AM
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you can also speak for yourself, the LDS has post mohammed revelation if its the same god then their revelation supercedes mohammeds, so speak for yourself and tell me of this revelation of joseph smiths
The sequence goes like this,..
Judaism is the Abrahamic tradition,..period...no more revelation!
Christianity accepts the Abrahamic tradition, but adds on the revelation of Jesus,...period...no more revelation!
Islam accepts the Abrahamic and Jesus tradition, but adds on the Mohamed revelation,...period...no more revelation!
LSD accepts the Abrahamic and Jesus tradition (Islam had no presence in America at the time of its genesis), but adds on the revelation of Joseph Smith,...period..no more revelation.

I am not quite sure why you are asking me about the revelation of Joseph Smith
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:38 AM
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The sequence goes like this,..
Judaism is the Abrahamic tradition,..period...no more revelation!
Christianity accepts the Abrahamic tradition, but adds on the revelation of Jesus,...period...no more revelation!
Islam accepts the Abrahamic and Jesus tradition, but adds on the Mohamed revelation,...period...no more revelation!
LSD accepts the Abrahamic and Jesus tradition (Islam had no presence in America at the time of its genesis), but adds on the revelation of Joseph Smith,...period..no more revelation.

I am not quite sure why you are asking me about the revelation of Joseph Smith
because it is incompatible with Islam a heresy and in answer to your sura
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because it is incompatible with Islam a heresy and in answer to your sura
Yet you're both missing the fact that Smith's "revelation" is not his own but simply translating books that were written before and during Christ's Revelation. Therefore it is not a new revelation at all, and Smith is at most a minor Prophet of Jesus, no more than Timothy, John, Peter, Paul, etc..

The revelation Smith offered is a time capsule from before Muhammed. That makes Joseph Smith one of the people of the Book.

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Old 04-15-2008, 06:06 AM
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because it is incompatible with Islam a heresy and in answer to your sura
The Koran makes clear that the revelation is unique to the indigenous peoples of that part of the world.
That Islam has spread beyond the semite speaking peoples to the wider world is another subject.
The Book of Mormon revelation was also unique to the peoples of America.
That LDS has spread beyond America to the wider world is another subject.

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The Koran makes clear that the revelation is unique to the indigenous peoples of that part of the world.
That Islam has spread beyond the semite speaking peoples to the wider world is another subject.
The Book of Mormon revelation was also unique to the peoples of America.
That LDS has spread beyond America to the wider world is another subject.

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ok but we are in a thread about mormon and muslim ties!
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Yet you're both missing the fact that Smith's "revelation" is not his own but simply translating books that were written before and during Christ's Revelation. Therefore it is not a new revelation at all, and Smith is at most a minor Prophet of Jesus, no more than Timothy, John, Peter, Paul, etc..

The revelation Smith offered is a time capsule from before Muhammed. That makes Joseph Smith one of the people of the Book.

Regards,
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i get what you are saying , but that does not give them a basis to deepen ties, just the opposite in fact. this people of the book thing is nonsense a fairy tale, they have different faiths and i say, (as you know) different gods.
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ok but we are in a thread about mormon and muslim ties!
I understand that this is a thread about mormon and muslim ties,...and the tie is Oneness,..God absolute.

Unless you are saying that there are two Gods,..ohhh then there would be star wars!
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I understand that this is a thread about mormon and muslim ties,...and the tie is Oneness,..God absolute.

Unless you are saying that there are two Gods,..ohhh then there would be star wars!
indeed the mormons God has a devine son the muslims God does not.
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