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Old 04-12-2008, 11:21 PM
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The LDS Church is always extending a hand of friendship to other religions. In the Spanish Fork, Utah, area, the Church donated money towards a chapel for the Baha'i people (not sure of the religion, but something similar). So I'm not surprised to see friendliness towards the Muslims.

I don't see any reason to read anything suspicious or negative into it. Friendliness is a good thing.
good for the LDS but have you ever heard of the Saudis or anyone elsefor that matterfrom the islamic world donating for a christian church, in fact chrisianity is banned in saudi, in Islam you are a heretic and under sharia you could face death, so the suspician as far as i am concerned is from any muslim who sees a similarity in an LDS minister and an imam is lying, your faiths are inconsolable,diametrically opposite nothing in common except the claim that your faith decends from Abraham, and make no mistake theirs stops at muhamed
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good for the LDS but have you ever heard of the Saudis or anyone elsefor that matterfrom the islamic world donating for a christian church, in fact chrisianity is banned in saudi, in Islam you are a heretic and under sharia you could face death, so the suspician as far as i am concerned is from any muslim who sees a similarity in an LDS minister and an imam is lying, your faiths are inconsolable,diametrically opposite nothing in common except the claim that your faith decends from Abraham, and make no mistake theirs stops at muhamed
you seem to have some serious misconceptions about islam.
it is very logical for mormons and muslims to get along. their books both teach to be good, love God, love your neighbor, and do righteous good deeds, help the poor and things of that nature. basically the same stuff jesus, who was muslim, taught in the gospels.
here is what the quran says in 2:62 "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
so a muslim who follows the quran, and a mormon would have a lot in common, even the prejudice they feel projected from a largely misinformed and prejudiced amerikkka. there is nothing in the quran or the teachings of any prophet of islam that says someone should be killed or even injured in any way just for following a different religious path. it, in fact, says the opposite as you read above, it says God will reward them if they believe in God and the last day and do good.
adam was the first prophet of islam, muhammad was the 'prophet like unto moses' prophesized in the torah, the seal of the prophets of islam.

can you back up any of your anti-islamic thoughts with references from the quran or the bible (without taking things out of context)? or are you just making up lies about islam based on what you see as the actions of someone you believe is a muslim?
muhammad, just like many prophets, taught that in the end times there will be very few who actually hold to the teachings of their prophet(s), so saying saudi arabia does this or that has nothing to do with islam, and their interpretation of sharia law is not necessarily islam either. saudi is known to be an oppressive country, with armed american soldiers in the streets.

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you seem to have some serious misconceptions about islam.
it is very logical for mormons and muslims to get along. their books both teach to be good, love God, love your neighbor, and do righteous good deeds, help the poor and things of that nature. basically the same stuff jesus, who was muslim, taught in the gospels.
here is what the quran says in 2:62 "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
so a muslim who follows the quran, and a mormon would have a lot in common, even the prejudice they feel projected from a largely misinformed and prejudiced amerikkka. there is nothing in the quran or the teachings of any prophet of islam that says someone should be killed or even injured in any way just for following a different religious path. it, in fact, says the opposite as you read above, it says God will reward them if they believe in God and the last day and do good.
adam was the first prophet of islam, muhammad was the 'prophet like unto moses' prophesized in the torah, the seal of the prophets of islam.

can you back up any of your anti-islamic thoughts with references from the quran or the bible (without taking things out of context)? or are you just making up lies about islam based on what you see as the actions of someone you believe is a muslim?
muhammad, just like many prophets, taught that in the end times there will be very few who actually hold to the teachings of their prophet(s), so saying saudi arabia does this or that has nothing to do with islam, and their interpretation of sharia law is not necessarily islam either. saudi is known to be an oppressive country, with armed american soldiers in the streets.

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utter nonsense !how would you reconcile yourself in their further revelations after mohamed,or their view of Isa, its not prejudice but a different religion, dont you know that , what do you know about LDS beleif and how do you reconcile your beleifs with theirs, would you go to a LDS church service for example?
God has a body that looks like yours, though His body is immortal, perfected, and has a glory beyond description. He knows you personally and loves you more than you can comprehend. To help you find happiness in this life and guide you to return to live with Him, Heavenly Father provided a plan called the gospel? of Jesus Christ, a guide based on the life and teachings of His Son, Jesus Christ.

you are OK with that

After centuries of spiritual darkness, a restoration? of truth was needed. Under the Direction of our Heavenly Father, the gospel of Jesus Christ was restored on the earth through the Prophet Joseph Smith. God has promised it will never be taken from His children again.

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There is no doubt that Christians and Jews are "peoples of the Book." As such they have automatic acceptance in Islam even if they hold quaint notions that are not Qur'anic.

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There is no doubt that Christians and Jews are "peoples of the Book." As such they have automatic acceptance in Islam even if they hold quaint notions that are not Qur'anic.

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these quaint notions are deeply felt religious convictions. oposing Qur'anic beliefs
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You may speak for yourself,.. but do not presume that your belief and associated religious conviction of opposing Koranic revelation is representative of the Jewish and Christian faithful.

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Sura 29:45
"Argue not, unless in a kindly way, with the Jews (the people of the Book); except with any of them who have treated you wrongly: and say, 'We believe in what hat been sent down to us and in what has been sent down to you. Our God and your God is one and the same, and to him do we surrender ourselves as Muslims.'"
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You may speak for yourself,.. but do not presume that your belief and associated religious conviction of opposing Koranic revelation is representative of the Jewish and Christian faithful.

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Sura 29:45
"Argue not, unless in a kindly way, with the Jews (the people of the Book); except with any of them who have treated you wrongly: and say, 'We believe in what hat been sent down to us and in what has been sent down to you. Our God and your God is one and the same, and to him do we surrender ourselves as Muslims.'"
you can also speak for yourself, the LDS has post mohammed revelation if its the same god then their revelation supercedes mohammeds, so speak for yourself and tell me of this revelation of joseph smiths
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Kai,

Sometimes what you might say for yourself is better said by somjeone else:
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A fundamental teaching of Bahá'u'lláh is the oneness of the world of humanity. Addressing mankind, He says: "Ye are all leaves of one tree and the fruits of one branch." By this it is meant that the world of humanity is like a tree, the nations or peoples are the different limbs or branches of that tree and the individual human creatures are as the fruits and blossoms thereof. In this way His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh expressed the oneness of humankind whereas in all religious teachings of the past, the human world has been represented as divided into two parts, one known as the people of the Book of God or the pure tree and the other the people of infidelity and error or the evil tree. The former were considered as belonging to the faithful and the others to the hosts of the irreligious and infidel; one part of humanity the recipients of divine mercy and the other the object of the wrath of their Creator. His Holiness Bahá'u'lláh removed this by proclaiming the oneness of the world of humanity and this principle is specialized in His teachings for He has submerged all mankind in the sea of divine generosity. Some are asleep; they need to be awakened. Some are ailing; they need to be healed. Some are immature as children; they need to be trained. But all are recipients of the bounty and bestowals of God. " Abdu'l Baha, Bahai World Faith, pp. 245-248

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