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Old 12-27-2007, 06:33 AM
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No pain, no gain.
But God can do anything. He can provide the gain without the pain.
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:09 AM
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The astounding thing about Mueller is that he NEVER, EVER asked anyone for anything, not money, not anything. He only prayed for what he needed and God provided. This is because his will was alligned with God's will. He cared for the lost and the orphaned as Christ did and the Bible commands, and praying in Jesus' name, that is in accordance with his will, his prayers were miraculously answered, and ours can be as well.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:47 AM
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But God can do anything. He can provide the gain without the pain.
If He did, then He wouldn't truly love us. Chew on that.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:53 AM
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If He did, then He wouldn't truly love us. Chew on that.
That is certainly why I slap my nephews around... because I truly love them.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:04 AM
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That is certainly why I slap my nephews around... because I truly love them.
Spare the cattle prod and spoil the child, I always say.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:05 AM
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That is certainly why I slap my nephews around... because I truly love them.
There is a difference between letting us make our own choices, for good or ill, and slapping someone around.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:18 AM
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There is a difference between letting us make our own choices, for good or ill, and slapping someone around.
That's a very good point, Luna, and I agree with in so far as it goes. But why would God allow hurricanes to kill people, for instance?
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:25 AM
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There is a difference between letting us make our own choices, for good or ill, and slapping someone around.
If you were god, would you have allowed Ted Bundy and Charles Manson to make their own choices?

If one of your children wants to jump off a bridge or bludgeon her sister, will you allow her to make her own choices?
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:37 AM
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