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Old 11-01-2007, 02:48 PM
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if a person insults my Prophet Mohammed saws or abuses him , then such a person can forget about his human rights , no rights for such a person that abuses Prophet Mohammed saws
Thank you for the fine illustration of what lies at the heart at the root of human rights abuses.

Here is a hadith that occurred to me just now. Not sure why that might be so, but anyway:

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Muhammad (pbuh) once referred to strife, and said, "It will appear at the time of knowledge leaving the world." Ziad said, "O Messenger of God, how will knowledge go from the world, since we read the Qu'ran, and teach it to our children, and our children to theirs; and so on till the Last Day?" Then Muhammad (pbuh) said, "O ZIad, I supposed you the most learned man of Medinah. Do the Jews and Christians who read the Bible and the Evangel act on them?
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:03 PM
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Muhammad (pbuh) once referred to strife, and said, "It will appear at the time of knowledge leaving the world." Ziad said, "O Messenger of God, how will knowledge go from the world, since we read the Qu'ran, and teach it to our children, and our children to theirs; and so on till the Last Day?" Then Muhammad (pbuh) said, "O ZIad, I supposed you the most learned man of Medinah. Do the Jews and Christians who read the Bible and the Evangel act on them?
I can't see how this Hadith is related to the topic...But it's awsome
Really a wise Hadith..and it's proving to be true..

The prophet was trying to prove a point, which is that, we being muslims doesn't mean we know everything, nor that we are the best people ever!!
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:15 PM
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I can't see how this Hadith is related to the topic...But it's awsome
Really a wise Hadith..and it's proving to be true..

The prophet was trying to prove a point, which is that, we being muslims doesn't mean we know everything, nor that we are the best people ever!!
That hadith is just one of the reasons I could never blame Islam for a few having gone astray and abusing it. It happens to everyone at some point.

But those few don't change the positive things that come from the majority who are trying daily to follow Islam sincerely as best they can.
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This is good to hear/read.
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if a person insults my Prophet Mohammed saws or abuses him , then such a person can forget about his human rights , no rights for such a person that abuses Prophet Mohammed saws

Astaghfirullah brother. FOr shame you would say that! How did rasulullah (saw) himself treat those that denied and detested him, and insulted him? Do a little read up on Islamic history if you don't know. Did he kill, or deny the rights of any of those people based on the fact that they did anything to him? No. He didn't. The bahai's while we may disagree with their religion, have every right to express it and declare it, and practice it EVEN ina shariah based government which I say Iran is most assuredly not.

If you understood the position of the rights in Islam you would never say what you said. Do you know that everything in this creation has a right? That it must be the job of the muslims to ensure that these rights are NEVER violated?

Get it together Abdullah........ we do not punish those who do not believe in Allah and His rasul, we give dawah to them, and treat them fairly, and fulfill the rights of ALL the people be they believers or not.
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Muhammed is not the Prophet-Founder of the Baha`i Faith, rather He is the respected Prophet Founder of Islam as Moses is the respected Prophet Founder of Judaism or Christ of Christianity.

Baha`u'llah and the Bab are the Twin Manifestations Who founded the Baha`i Faith.

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