How religions start? (Jesus Christ, priests, rituals, Latter-Day Saints, moral)

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by Katzpur

Now what I find interesting is the fact that she said, "If you are Roman Catholic, Jesus Christ began your religion in the year A.D. 30." Now Ann Landers was Jewish. She had no particular reason to promote one Christian denomination over another, and yet she says that the Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ and that the Eastern Orthodox split from it in 1054. From the Eastern Orthodox point of view, I can see how this might possibly offend. I mean wouldn't they say that Jesus Christ established their Church and Roman Catholicism split from it in 1054?

I think Ann was trying to make the point that since her religion is the oldest then it is the most true.

I see it differently, the latest is the most true because it builds on what we have learned over the last 4,000 years.

[ayani]

Originally Posted by Super Universe

I see it differently, the latest is the most true because it builds on what we have learned over the last 4,000 years.

that or it forms a uniquely narrow world view and disregards past teachings for its own, past leaders for a current, charismatic one.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

By this reasoning S_U, we should all be following someone like Charles Manson or Reverend Sung Yung Moon. Hare Krsishna, perhaps? David Koresh anyone? Warren Jeffs?

When did I say that you should follow Charles Manson or anyone else? If you choose to misunderstand my words then that is your choice.

My reasoning never said that you should believe and follow every fool who wants attention.

My belief's are not that simple, they are complicated because the universe is complicated.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by gracie

that or it forms a uniquely narrow world view and disregards past teachings for its own, past leaders for a current, charismatic one.

Narrow?

How is a belief built from the entirety of human knowledge (science and religion) narrow?

My charismatic leaders are The Creator and His Son.

[Super Universe]

Originally Posted by YmirGF

I see. So you limit this to only individuals that attract a lot of followers whose message reinforces those followers own preconceptions?

By the way... Why only the last 4,000 years? Was nothing worthy of note prior to that?

According to wiki:

According to recent calculations, Lord Krishna's birth date has been approximately calculated to be 3228 B.C

Now my math could be off a tad, but that would put things back well over 5000 years. I guess this was all nothing, eh? I suppose the Divine Mother/Earth Mother cults were nothing much either.

I don't limit anything for anyone, only they can truly do that. If people wish to follow other people then that is their choice but they should wonder at the true motivation for it. Why does one need to follow and pay another human to tell them about God?

What seminary school has a greater connection to God than I do? I tell you there is none.

Their connection is with human words not with their soul/conscience. They study the human language to try to determine what the original human writer meant. In doing this they miss the chance to look inside themselves and discover the truth available to each of us. God is trying to tell us in His way but people keep looking for Him in a human written book.

Do we teach our children about science from thousand year, or more, old texts? No, then why should we consider 4,000 year old religious text to be the one and only true revelation?

Why only the last 4,000 years? Ann Landers was attempting to support her idea that her faith (4,000 year old Judaism) is the one true faith because it is the oldest on her list. All the other faiths, in her mind, come from it.

What I believe now is not just an outgrowth of Judaism, it is an continuing evolutionary understanding of God and the universe He created.