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Old 04-16-2011, 11:16 AM
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Genesis 9: vs 3 - 5.

First man was given all fruits from plant for food, now here man is given meat as well - at least with no lifeblood on it. All meat (animals) have lifeblood, unless I believe cooked where there appear no blood (compositionally there is still blood).

So, what do christians think - are men to be vegetarian or not? Please clear up this bible teaching.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:25 AM
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Genesis 9: vs 3 - 5.

First man was given all fruits from plant for food, now here man is given meat as well - at least with no lifeblood on it. All meat (animals) have lifeblood, unless I believe cooked where there appear no blood (compositionally there is still blood).

So, what do christians think - are men to be vegetarian or not? Please clear up this bible teaching.
Lol! I like your question, but from what I read in the Christian Bible, there is no animal worth even a hair on the human head. By this I took it as a definite yes, but that does not mean not to treat animals kindly. This view I got from reading the Forgotten Books of Eden I believe or the Books of Enoch.
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Old 04-16-2011, 11:32 AM
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From Tolstoy I believe a Christian should be vegetarian.
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Ah yes, eat fruits only and keep every animals as pets and feed them fruits and clothings. hahaha.
No, I can't say I have read those two books. Thanks for the reply.
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Now now, be gentle...

Yes, I believe every Christian should be vegetarian... when you read from the passages of the New Jerusalem according to Isaiah, compare it to Daniel's diet against the king's which was full of meat, along with the passage in Genesis, God's original diet for mankind was vegetarianism.

Even with meat, God gave specific prohibitions about eating and killing it. That being said, I don't remember any such prohibition on fruits or vegetables.
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Now now, be gentle...

Yes, I believe every Christian should be vegetarian... when you read from the passages of the New Jerusalem according to Isaiah, compare it to Daniel's diet against the king's which was full of meat, along with the passage in Genesis, God's original diet for mankind was vegetarianism.

Even with meat, God gave specific prohibitions about eating and killing it. That being said, I don't remember any such prohibition on fruits or vegetables.
Now that you mention it, wasn't one of the reasons for the vegan diet due to Cain slaying Able, or am I way off base here?
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My point for the post is also to ask, why did god first say eat veggie, then later change his mind and allow meat? This can show that god is not sure of what he is doing (not omniscient, omnipotent,etc) or that genesis in the bible is just not true, and written with the intelligence of a man. What's your view?
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Now that you mention it, wasn't one of the reasons for the vegan diet due to Cain slaying Able, or am I way off base here?
Who knows? I see the Qur'an as more accurate than the Bible in terms of the spiritual meaning of the story.

There is no mentions whatsoever of the kind of offering it was, but that the killing was out of jealousy more than anything, and even after that, God forgave Cain for his sin.

And after that, God says that it is for this reason that by killing one person, it will be as if one kills all of mankind, and by saving one person, one saves all of mankind.
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My point for the post is also to ask, why did god first say eat veggie, then later change his mind and allow meat? This can show that god is not sure of what he is doing (not omniscient, omnipotent,etc) or that genesis in the bible is just not true, and written with the intelligence of a man. What's your view?
The Bible is to be taken metaphorically or spiritually, and not literally, especially in both Genesis and Revelation.

However, the Biblical story of Daniel does show somewhat that a vegetarian diet is healthy.

By the way, just to tell you, this IS an Abrahamic DIR... if you are not going to be in the spirit of kindness and desire to debate, it would be better to move your questioning nature towards the debate forum.
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The Bible is to be taken metaphorically or spiritually, and not literally, especially in both Genesis and Revelation.

However, the Biblical story of Daniel does show somewhat that a vegetarian diet is healthy.

By the way, just to tell you, this IS an Abrahamic DIR... if you are not going to be in the spirit of kindness and desire to debate, it would be better to move your questioning nature towards the debate forum.
Thank you. It was not my intention to debate, but to know the understanding from difference abrahamtic faiths. But I notice, others will vehemently debate any issues causing alot of sparks to fly unnecessarily. Maybe I might take up your suggestion to move to the debate forums for future issues.
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